[MORBIT] The Pickled Corvice

[cosmo]

[IMPACT]: Fuck.?? well maybe id be sad or happy i guess It depends on what happens to me right
[IMPACT]: Like if i m lucky then Fuck yeah and if I'm unlucky then oh shit You know?? Can't do shit about that but yeah

[victorianflorist]

[CHEAP-SNOOZE]: While the context is different, I'd argue that Luxson native corvice affected by the horror plague experienced such a metamorphosis, considering we're now a completely different species.
[CHEAP-SNOOZE]: I hate to repeat myself, but while I was born half OBJ, my one of my mothers was born a corvice. She struggled with the changer up until her passing.
[CHEAP-SNOOZE]: She had to completely alter her lifestyle to account for her newfound fragility and physical weakness.
[CHEAP-SNOOZE]: And she had to cope with her society and support structures shattering as a consequence of the plague.
[CHEAP-SNOOZE]: So while I acknowledge that your experiences as a Concept are distinct from my cultural experiences as an OBJ, I absolutely understand.
[CHEAP-SNOOZE]: I live in chronic pain as it is, and some days my legs barely cooperate.
[CHEAP-SNOOZE]: And while I personally lack a comparison between what my life would have been as a corvice as opposed to an OBJ, my physical symptoms are a direct result of the horror plague affecting my mothers.
[CHEAP-SNOOZE]: And like, it seems you're getting at pretty dramatic changes, so I'd count exploding heads and fur/hair/scale loss along with other miscellaneous horror mutations as dramatic.

[Lilium Mortem]

[Jocelyn]: I had already entertained such a possibility at the request of Devils Lament, so it's not too much trouble. It would depend heavily on the changes, I could see myself being fascinated by what has changed, or sad of what I'd lost. There is a certain appeal to having a non-static body. I do not grow or change, I am what I was since I spawned. Having the ability to change, even if was beyond my control... I think If given the choice, I might well take it, with the only caveat being I retain my ability.

[skinstealer]

[DEVILS_LAMENT]: and what if the changes were unpleasant? really unpleasant?
[DEVILS_LAMENT]: or really disliked by the people around you?

[King-Clod]

[GUEST] can I ask what you'te goin to use this info for?
[GUEST] it's kinda an uncomfortable line of questioning imo
[GUEST] especially with how pushy your being with it
[GUEST] it feels terrible, plain iand simple
[GUEST] I said that already
[GUEST] what more do you fucking want

[skinstealer]

[DEVILS_LAMENT]: no need to get snippy, please?
[DEVILS_LAMENT]: i'm a social worker, we both are, we're going to use this information to better aid our own clients in their changes. 
[DEVILS_LAMENT]: yeesh

[King-Clod]

[GUEST]: sorry
[GUEST]: im not sure anyone here is going to be able to give you satisfying answers though
[GUEST]: specially not me sorry im touchy aboutthis stuff
[GUEST]: might want to look into sources for monsters and horrified people though
[GUEST]: look up near-terror experiences especialy, where folks got to the brink of becoming a terror but not quite
[GUEST]: might be more the sort of answers you're lookin for

[SHIVERS]

[YELLOW.PAGE] this is all helpful so far, so I appreciate the input
[YELLOW.PAGE] and I realize this isn't the best way to collect this sort of data
[YELLOW.PAGE] but we were tasked to do this within online communities
[YELLOW.PAGE] not really my call

[YELLOW.PAGE] I'm technically not allowed to say that but 
[YELLOW.PAGE] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[YELLOW.PAGE] at any rate, you're welcome to not answer if you're not comfortable with it
[YELLOW.PAGE] as far as I'm aware this chatroom is fairly open-ended
[YELLOW.PAGE] you're more than welcome to pretend like we aren't here

[YELLOW.PAGE] anyone else still wanting to participate is welcome to, though
[YELLOW.PAGE] I think devil asked a bit further with this
[YELLOW.PAGE] and if you have any questions directed at us, you can ask Me specifically, if you need to

[King-Clod]

[GUEST]: also if you get any like, concept masterpost on how to deal with that could you link that here?
[GUEST]: i haven't found much that helped me and the writeup your partner wrote up reads almost identica to my experience
[GUEST]: especialy with like the really unpleasant changes you mentioned
[GUEST]: sorry again

[BlueCrowned]

[REVERSE_BULL]: This is a really strange manner in which to collect this data. Wouldn't you want to contact communities that have direct experience with this sort of thing instead of a random sampling in a chat room?

[SHIVERS]

[YELLOW.PAGE] that's unfortunately something I'm not allowed to do
[YELLOW.PAGE] especially with my job
[YELLOW.PAGE] I can't direct people to specific places for support, from a legal standpoint
[YELLOW.PAGE] as much as I'd like to, I'd prefer to not lose my job
[YELLOW.PAGE] but you could search something like "body metamorphosis support" online, I know there's a handful of sites that may be able to help, I just can't give specifics
[YELLOW.PAGE] therapy may also be a good resource, and if your area doesn't offer it, you may be able to find it online, too
[YELLOW.PAGE] that's my recommendation, as someone who does this for a living

[SHIVERS]

[YELLOW.PAGE] we're wanting to get data from the general populace online, at the moment
[YELLOW.PAGE] from just about any group
[YELLOW.PAGE] even random chatrooms

[YELLOW.PAGE] but you're right
[YELLOW.PAGE] this is definitely helpful for what we're trying to do
[YELLOW.PAGE] but it is not ideal
[YELLOW.PAGE] again, I only have so much sway for what we get to do within our project
[YELLOW.PAGE] as much as I would Very Much Like to have more control over how we do things :))))

[YELLOW.PAGE] this isn't the only place we're looking, for the record
[YELLOW.PAGE] currently doing a "shotgun" approach in quite a few different places
[YELLOW.PAGE] we're still getting useful data
[YELLOW.PAGE] so it's still worth it

[Lilium Mortem]

[Jocelyn]: In response to "and what if the changes were unpleasant? really unpleasant?
[DEVILS_LAMENT]: or really disliked by the people around you?"
I obviously wouldn't want the changes if they were entirely negative, but as for reactions? I am an eleven inch tall walking corpse of grotesque proportions. I am more than used to being disliked for my appearance.

[entipikal]

[scott]: tbh walking in on this
[scott]: this, like. questionnaire ? which is apparently collecting data for somethin (idk im only like skimming messages i miss)
[scott]: it wasnt what i EXPECTED when i joined the chat but , you  kno wwww
[scott]: its smth inteRESTING!
[scott]: as for the actual question uh,,  m
[scott]: like who cares if other ppl dont like it!! i mean if the changes are negative for YOU then, maybe, dont do it but.
[scott]: if its good for YOU and OTHER people have a problem with it then thats THEIR problem babyy!!

[BlueCrowned]

[SPINNING-YARNS]: Hey I was looking for a chat room what's up
[SPINNING-YARNS]: Let me see if i can backread??
[SPINNING-YARNS]: ...OH
[SPINNING-YARNS]: That's heavy for a random chat room on the internet, wow!
[SPINNING-YARNS]: I'm pretty sure I have some experience with this though
[SPINNING-YARNS]: Hopefully I'm not too late to answer
[SPINNING-YARNS]: I have no idea how to answer these individually so um, I guess do with this what you will but
[SPINNING-YARNS]: I'm an OBJ so I used to be a bird corvice and now I am not that and uh
[SPINNING-YARNS]: ...you know what never mind I don't think I can talk about this in a room full of strangers even if it is basically anonymous sorry

[skinstealer]

[DEVILS_LAMENT]: that's fine, no one is obligated to answer or anything
[DEVILS_LAMENT]: and i did warn that it could cause argument or get personal

[BlueCrowned]

[SPINNING-YARNS]: Yeah
[SPINNING-YARNS]: But uh
[SPINNING-YARNS]: I DO want you to know you're not alone, okay? Because I can understand going through a major change and having it affect you severely
[SPINNING-YARNS]: obviously

[skinstealer]

[DEVILS_LAMENT]: thanks, i guess?

[BlueCrowned]

[SPINNING-YARNS]: Yeah
[SPINNING-YARNS]: sorry
[SPINNING-YARNS]: Didn't really expect this to shake me up so much? it's been a while after all

[Lilium Mortem]

[Jocelyn]: Speaking of change, I do not believe my caregiver is entirely pleased with his body. I do not wish to reveal too many details, but since the subject was raised, does anyone know anything about body modification? Does healthcare cover it anywhere in Taverne?